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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 21, 2016 0:41:50 GMT 10
A boring show is a boring show. Star Trek is one of the most groundbreaking television shows of all time, both due to it's iconic characters and cultural/innovation impact, as well as it's forward-thinking progressive statements on equal rights. I won't act like i'm a huge fan, but just because you don't like it doesn't mean you denounce anyone who does, escpecially since it changed the world. Plus bluesythug doesn't even like Star Trek anyway For the record, I don't mind the original Shatner/Nimoy Star Trek, though overall I'm not big on it
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 0:46:16 GMT 10
Star Trek is one of the most groundbreaking television shows of all time, both due to it's iconic characters and cultural/innovation impact, as well as it's forward-thinking progressive statements on equal rights. I won't act like i'm a huge fan, but just because you don't like it doesn't mean you denounce anyone who does, escpecially since it changed the world. Plus bluesythug doesn't even like Star Trek anyway For the record, I don't mind the original Shatner/Nimoy Star Trek, though overall I'm not big on it I've just seen clips of Star Trek, not sure where they're all from. I think Nimoy is great though. Shatner too.
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 21, 2016 1:32:46 GMT 10
For the record, I don't mind the original Shatner/Nimoy Star Trek, though overall I'm not big on it I've just seen clips of Star Trek, not sure where they're all from. I think Nimoy is great though. Shatner too. Usually you can tell by the cast members what version of the show it is
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 13:03:12 GMT 10
I've just seen clips of Star Trek, not sure where they're all from. I think Nimoy is great though. Shatner too. Usually you can tell by the cast members what version of the show it is Yea, but I only know like 5 cast members or so. I thought there were only 2 big changes in casting in Star Trek history.
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 21, 2016 13:16:29 GMT 10
Usually you can tell by the cast members what version of the show it is Yea, but I only know like 5 cast members or so. I thought there were only 2 big changes in casting in Star Trek history. Ermm... each version of Star Trek has an entirely different cast - with the exception being between the original and the animated versions, which have virtually the same cast and characters
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 13:26:54 GMT 10
Yea, but I only know like 5 cast members or so. I thought there were only 2 big changes in casting in Star Trek history. Ermm... each version of Star Trek has an entirely different cast - with the exception being between the original and the animated versions, which have virtually the same cast and characters Wait are you serious? So Nimoy was only in ONE version of Star Trek? How many versions are there? Also, animated series suck in every TV show. Star Wars Clone Wars sucked and Mr. Bean sucked, right?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 13:58:54 GMT 10
Ermm... each version of Star Trek has an entirely different cast - with the exception being between the original and the animated versions, which have virtually the same cast and characters Wait are you serious? So Nimoy was only in ONE version of Star Trek? How many versions are there? Also, animated series suck in every TV show. Star Wars Clone Wars sucked and Mr. Bean sucked, right? Here's how it goes Star Trek: The Original Series is the most iconic. It starred Shatner, Nimoy, and a long list of almost as iconic characters that everyone seems to remember. It ended after three seasons but thrived in syndication, launching an animated spin off aimed more towards younger Star Trek fans. As for it sucking, I really wouldn't know as in general i'm far from a Star Trek expert and it's fairly obscure in the grand scheme of Star Trek. In 1979, they made the first Star Trek film and would go on to make five more, as well as four films relating to a recently made television series that took place years after the original series: Star Trek The Next Generation. It has Patrick Stewart and Will Wheaton and a few other fairly well known actors, though mainly from being on this. It was still running by the time the spin-off Deep Space Nine was made and DS9 was still running by the time Voyager was made. They all came to an end eventually and Enterprise was eventually made, which served as a prequel to the original series, as opposed to a brand new story. Then the J.J Abrams movies came out which focused on the original series.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 14:03:28 GMT 10
Wait are you serious? So Nimoy was only in ONE version of Star Trek? How many versions are there? Also, animated series suck in every TV show. Star Wars Clone Wars sucked and Mr. Bean sucked, right? Here's how it goes Star Trek: The Original Series is the most iconic. It starred Shatner, Nimoy, and a long list of almost as iconic characters that everyone seems to remember. It ended after three seasons but thrived in syndication, launching an animated spin off aimed more towards younger Star Trek fans. As for it sucking, I really wouldn't know as in general i'm far from a Star Trek expert and it's fairly obscure in the grand scheme of Star Trek. In 1979, they made the first Star Trek film and would go on to make five more, as well as four films relating to a recently made television series that took place years after the original series: Star Trek The Next Generation. It has Patrick Stewart and Will Wheaton and a few other fairly well known actors, though mainly from being on this. It was still running by the time the spin-off Deep Space Nine was made and DS9 was still running by the time Voyager was made. They all came to an end eventually and Enterprise was eventually made, which served as a prequel to the original series, as opposed to a brand new story. Then the J.J Abrams movies came out which focused on the original series. Well most animation spinoffs of famous series I know were usually pretyy bad. And in these films the original cast stayed right? And in the Next Generation did Nimoy and Shatner still play their roles or did they replace them completley? I know at least in the JJ Abrams movies the cast is different.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 14:07:43 GMT 10
Here's how it goes Star Trek: The Original Series is the most iconic. It starred Shatner, Nimoy, and a long list of almost as iconic characters that everyone seems to remember. It ended after three seasons but thrived in syndication, launching an animated spin off aimed more towards younger Star Trek fans. As for it sucking, I really wouldn't know as in general i'm far from a Star Trek expert and it's fairly obscure in the grand scheme of Star Trek. In 1979, they made the first Star Trek film and would go on to make five more, as well as four films relating to a recently made television series that took place years after the original series: Star Trek The Next Generation. It has Patrick Stewart and Will Wheaton and a few other fairly well known actors, though mainly from being on this. It was still running by the time the spin-off Deep Space Nine was made and DS9 was still running by the time Voyager was made. They all came to an end eventually and Enterprise was eventually made, which served as a prequel to the original series, as opposed to a brand new story. Then the J.J Abrams movies came out which focused on the original series. Well most animation spinoffs of famous series I know were usually pretyy bad. And in these films the original cast stayed right? And in the Next Generation did Nimoy and Shatner still play their roles or did they replace them completley? I know at least in the JJ Abrams movies the cast is different. The original cast stayed for the movies that followed on from the original reason. none of the original cast stayed on board for the next generation or any subsequent star trek shows, some however did appear in the film Generations, which was the first of the TNG movies.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 14:10:08 GMT 10
Well most animation spinoffs of famous series I know were usually pretyy bad. And in these films the original cast stayed right? And in the Next Generation did Nimoy and Shatner still play their roles or did they replace them completley? I know at least in the JJ Abrams movies the cast is different. The original cast stayed for the movies that followed on from the original reason. none of the original cast stayed on board for the next generation or any subsequent star trek shows, some however did appear in the film Generations, which was the first of the TNG movies. Interesting...Star Trek spans a long generation huh. All I can really remember from the original series are Nimoy and Shatner and Takei and stuff. (Takei was original right) BTW, how did they explain the fact that Spock suddenly got younger in the JJ Abrams movies when he looks clearly older in the Original series? Also in the movie I watched, Beyond, there were references to "Ambassador Spock" and that sort of threw me off. I know they incorporated the death of Nimoy somehow in there but that's confusing, any idea?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 14:37:26 GMT 10
The original cast stayed for the movies that followed on from the original reason. none of the original cast stayed on board for the next generation or any subsequent star trek shows, some however did appear in the film Generations, which was the first of the TNG movies. Interesting...Star Trek spans a long generation huh. All I can really remember from the original series are Nimoy and Shatner and Takei and stuff. (Takei was original right) BTW, how did they explain the fact that Spock suddenly got younger in the JJ Abrams movies when he looks clearly older in the Original series? Also in the movie I watched, Beyond, there were references to "Ambassador Spock" and that sort of threw me off. I know they incorporated the death of Nimoy somehow in there but that's confusing, any idea? Yes, Takei was original series. I haven't watched the Abrams films in long enough to tell you.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 18:27:03 GMT 10
Interesting...Star Trek spans a long generation huh. All I can really remember from the original series are Nimoy and Shatner and Takei and stuff. (Takei was original right) BTW, how did they explain the fact that Spock suddenly got younger in the JJ Abrams movies when he looks clearly older in the Original series? Also in the movie I watched, Beyond, there were references to "Ambassador Spock" and that sort of threw me off. I know they incorporated the death of Nimoy somehow in there but that's confusing, any idea? Yes, Takei was original series. I haven't watched the Abrams films in long enough to tell you. I thought you enjyoed Star Trek? I can't get into the TV show because I find it tedious but the movies are pretty entertaining.
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 21, 2016 19:50:12 GMT 10
Ermm... each version of Star Trek has an entirely different cast - with the exception being between the original and the animated versions, which have virtually the same cast and characters Wait are you serious? So Nimoy was only in ONE version of Star Trek? How many versions are there? Also, animated series suck in every TV show. Star Wars Clone Wars sucked and Mr. Bean sucked, right? Nimoy's only in the original and the animated versions. That said he appears in two episodes of Next Generation as a guest. Also, how dare you
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 21, 2016 19:52:15 GMT 10
The original cast stayed for the movies that followed on from the original reason. none of the original cast stayed on board for the next generation or any subsequent star trek shows, some however did appear in the film Generations, which was the first of the TNG movies. Interesting...Star Trek spans a long generation huh. All I can really remember from the original series are Nimoy and Shatner and Takei and stuff. (Takei was original right) BTW, how did they explain the fact that Spock suddenly got younger in the JJ Abrams movies when he looks clearly older in the Original series? Also in the movie I watched, Beyond, there were references to "Ambassador Spock" and that sort of threw me off. I know they incorporated the death of Nimoy somehow in there but that's confusing, any idea? The explanation is that the JJ Abrams films are both a prequel and a reboot to the original series
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 20:16:26 GMT 10
Wait are you serious? So Nimoy was only in ONE version of Star Trek? How many versions are there? Also, animated series suck in every TV show. Star Wars Clone Wars sucked and Mr. Bean sucked, right? Nimoy's only in the original and the animated versions. That said he appears in two episodes of Next Generation as a guest. Also, how dare you Nimoy was in the animated? Wow Mr. Bean is awesome, have you seen animated Mr. Bean? Awful as hell.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 20:17:02 GMT 10
Interesting...Star Trek spans a long generation huh. All I can really remember from the original series are Nimoy and Shatner and Takei and stuff. (Takei was original right) BTW, how did they explain the fact that Spock suddenly got younger in the JJ Abrams movies when he looks clearly older in the Original series? Also in the movie I watched, Beyond, there were references to "Ambassador Spock" and that sort of threw me off. I know they incorporated the death of Nimoy somehow in there but that's confusing, any idea? The explanation is that the JJ Abrams films are both a prequel and a reboot to the original series Okay so are the two timelines somehow intertwined then? What's the in-universe explanation?
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 22, 2016 10:13:35 GMT 10
Nimoy's only in the original and the animated versions. That said he appears in two episodes of Next Generation as a guest. Also, how dare you Nimoy was in the animated? Wow Mr. Bean is awesome, have you seen animated Mr. Bean? Awful as hell. I grew up with the animated Mr. Bean, as well as the live action, and I won't stand for such desecration. The only Mr. Bean I'll concede is awful (and it really is awful) are the feature films. And yeah, all of the main original cast (except for Walter Koenig) is in the animated series
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 22, 2016 10:14:58 GMT 10
The explanation is that the JJ Abrams films are both a prequel and a reboot to the original series Okay so are the two timelines somehow intertwined then? What's the in-universe explanation? I honestly don't know... since it's a reboot though I don't think it is necessary to have an explanation
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 11:37:08 GMT 10
Nimoy was in the animated? Wow Mr. Bean is awesome, have you seen animated Mr. Bean? Awful as hell. I grew up with the animated Mr. Bean, as well as the live action, and I won't stand for such desecration. The only Mr. Bean I'll concede is awful (and it really is awful) are the feature films. And yeah, all of the main original cast (except for Walter Koenig) is in the animated series I thought the animated, while it wasn't a big mess didn't have the charm of Rowan Atkinson that made the original so funny. I have yet to seen the movies yet, and I have no desire to. Quite frankly, it's a shame there's only like 18 Mr. Bean episodes, those were really funny. One of the only shows that actually made me laugh. Speaking of which, how do you know so much about Star Trek? You're not a fan from what Kelan told me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 11:38:23 GMT 10
Okay so are the two timelines somehow intertwined then? What's the in-universe explanation? I honestly don't know... since it's a reboot though I don't think it is necessary to have an explanation Well in the new movie they refernce the old movies quite a lot which makes it confusing for new viewers. Granted most viewers will be returning ones but they still need to have some concern for the people who are just starting to watch Star Trek. It's not like if I watch Star Wars Episode 7, I'll have no idea what's going on because I didn't watch the previous 6 movies, and that's also a reboot.
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 22, 2016 11:55:28 GMT 10
I grew up with the animated Mr. Bean, as well as the live action, and I won't stand for such desecration. The only Mr. Bean I'll concede is awful (and it really is awful) are the feature films. And yeah, all of the main original cast (except for Walter Koenig) is in the animated series I thought the animated, while it wasn't a big mess didn't have the charm of Rowan Atkinson that made the original so funny. I have yet to seen the movies yet, and I have no desire to. Quite frankly, it's a shame there's only like 18 Mr. Bean episodes, those were really funny. One of the only shows that actually made me laugh. Speaking of which, how do you know so much about Star Trek? You're not a fan from what Kelan told me. I don't consider myself much of a fan, though I still know a thing or two about it
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 22, 2016 11:56:31 GMT 10
I honestly don't know... since it's a reboot though I don't think it is necessary to have an explanation Well in the new movie they refernce the old movies quite a lot which makes it confusing for new viewers. Granted most viewers will be returning ones but they still need to have some concern for the people who are just starting to watch Star Trek. It's not like if I watch Star Wars Episode 7, I'll have no idea what's going on because I didn't watch the previous 6 movies, and that's also a reboot. Except Episode 7 wasn't a reboot at all. It was a straight up sequel
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 11:59:34 GMT 10
I thought the animated, while it wasn't a big mess didn't have the charm of Rowan Atkinson that made the original so funny. I have yet to seen the movies yet, and I have no desire to. Quite frankly, it's a shame there's only like 18 Mr. Bean episodes, those were really funny. One of the only shows that actually made me laugh. Speaking of which, how do you know so much about Star Trek? You're not a fan from what Kelan told me. I don't consider myself much of a fan, though I still know a thing or two about it Well yea, just asking how do you know things about it?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 11:59:58 GMT 10
Well in the new movie they refernce the old movies quite a lot which makes it confusing for new viewers. Granted most viewers will be returning ones but they still need to have some concern for the people who are just starting to watch Star Trek. It's not like if I watch Star Wars Episode 7, I'll have no idea what's going on because I didn't watch the previous 6 movies, and that's also a reboot. Except Episode 7 wasn't a reboot at all. It was a straight up sequel It was technically a reboot. That's why they ripped the story off of Episode 4.
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 22, 2016 12:59:35 GMT 10
I don't consider myself much of a fan, though I still know a thing or two about it Well yea, just asking how do you know things about it? Eh, I have my sources
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 22, 2016 13:00:13 GMT 10
Except Episode 7 wasn't a reboot at all. It was a straight up sequel It was technically a reboot. That's why they ripped the story off of Episode 4. Literally nobody refers to it as a reboot. It's a sequel, nothing more and nothing less. It's as simple as that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 13:09:01 GMT 10
Well yea, just asking how do you know things about it? Eh, I have my sources You sound oddly suspicious right now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 13:09:29 GMT 10
It was technically a reboot. That's why they ripped the story off of Episode 4. Literally nobody refers to it as a reboot. It's a sequel, nothing more and nothing less. It's as simple as that. If it's a reboot, it's a good reboot. If it's a sequel, it's a bad sequel.
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 22, 2016 13:44:35 GMT 10
You sound oddly suspicious right now.
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 22, 2016 13:45:17 GMT 10
Literally nobody refers to it as a reboot. It's a sequel, nothing more and nothing less. It's as simple as that. If it's a reboot, it's a good reboot. If it's a sequel, it's a bad sequel. Well it's definitely not a reboot. For one it's set a few decades after the original trilogy. Also, the original actors return to reprise their roles
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