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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 19, 2016 1:47:06 GMT 10
Actually come to think of it Canada is a party with three major parties, and one of them - the NDP - is according to the Political Compass map further to the left than the Liberals (the ruling party) and in the political centre (though left-leaning socially) I don't think the NDP has much power. Before last year's general election the NDP held more seats than the Liberals. So there's no way I'd write them off like that at this stage
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 1:49:33 GMT 10
I don't think the NDP has much power. Before last year's general election the NDP held more seats than the Liberals. So there's no way I'd write them off like that at this stage Pretty sure that the conservatives or the liberals probably have much more power though.
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 19, 2016 1:55:17 GMT 10
Before last year's general election the NDP held more seats than the Liberals. So there's no way I'd write them off like that at this stage Pretty sure that the conservatives or the liberals probably have much more power though. Well for now yeah, though the NDP is firmly the third major party
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 1:56:29 GMT 10
Pretty sure that the conservatives or the liberals probably have much more power though. Well for now yeah, though the NDP is firmly the third major party The Libertarians are also the "firmly major third party" in America...They have no power though no do they?
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Post by meddle on Dec 19, 2016 5:09:42 GMT 10
I guess I'm ba right leaning liberal that's fairly socially tolerant
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Post by meddle on Dec 19, 2016 5:19:08 GMT 10
Well for now yeah, though the NDP is firmly the third major party The Libertarians are also the "firmly major third party" in America...They have no power though no do they? No, but they did too better than they ever did in their party's history with 3 percent of the popular vote
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 19, 2016 9:25:09 GMT 10
Well for now yeah, though the NDP is firmly the third major party The Libertarians are also the "firmly major third party" in America...They have no power though no do they? It's not the same comparison at all... the NDP is a major party, which means that it has a realistic chance of forming government. The Libertarians are one of the two major minor parties in the US, along with the Greens. Given how the US political system is set up, there's no way either one is going to hold government
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 22:29:46 GMT 10
The Libertarians are also the "firmly major third party" in America...They have no power though no do they? No, but they did too better than they ever did in their party's history with 3 percent of the popular vote 3 percent of the popular vote is nothing mate, there's literally no chance that the Libertarians/Greens will ever be president in the US without some serious reforms.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 22:30:34 GMT 10
The Libertarians are also the "firmly major third party" in America...They have no power though no do they? It's not the same comparison at all... the NDP is a major party, which means that it has a realistic chance of forming government. The Libertarians are one of the two major minor parties in the US, along with the Greens. Given how the US political system is set up, there's no way either one is going to hold government The NDP has 44 seats (that's less than 1/3) in the commons and 0 seats in the senate. I don't see them being very powerful at all.
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 19, 2016 22:53:35 GMT 10
No, but they did too better than they ever did in their party's history with 3 percent of the popular vote 3 percent of the popular vote is nothing mate, there's literally no chance that the Libertarians/Greens will ever be president in the US without some serious reforms. Yeah, unless America brings in preferential voting, I don't see any change from the Republican/Democratic two party monopoly
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 19, 2016 22:54:35 GMT 10
It's not the same comparison at all... the NDP is a major party, which means that it has a realistic chance of forming government. The Libertarians are one of the two major minor parties in the US, along with the Greens. Given how the US political system is set up, there's no way either one is going to hold government The NDP has 44 seats (that's less than 1/3) in the commons and 0 seats in the senate. I don't see them being very powerful at all. As I said they held more seats than the Liberals before the last election.... and they're certainly in a better position than the Liberal Democrats in the United Kingdom, who are firmly the third major non-regional party
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 23:02:31 GMT 10
3 percent of the popular vote is nothing mate, there's literally no chance that the Libertarians/Greens will ever be president in the US without some serious reforms. Yeah, unless America brings in preferential voting, I don't see any change from the Republican/Democratic two party monopoly How about a revolucion?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 23:03:24 GMT 10
The NDP has 44 seats (that's less than 1/3) in the commons and 0 seats in the senate. I don't see them being very powerful at all. As I said they held more seats than the Liberals before the last election.... and they're certainly in a better position than the Liberal Democrats in the United Kingdom, who are firmly the third major non-regional party Well if they held more seats than the liberals last election then they absoltuley failed this election for some reason, which should show their popularity probably dropped among Canadians... And I'm pretty sure most western countries (at least English speaking ones) have a two-party system, it just a matter of how firm it is.
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 19, 2016 23:35:17 GMT 10
As I said they held more seats than the Liberals before the last election.... and they're certainly in a better position than the Liberal Democrats in the United Kingdom, who are firmly the third major non-regional party Well if they held more seats than the liberals last election then they absoltuley failed this election for some reason, which should show their popularity probably dropped among Canadians... And I'm pretty sure most western countries (at least English speaking ones) have a two-party system, it just a matter of how firm it is. Which is ridiculous - although to be fair one upside is that with a two party system there is political stability. I just think people should have the right for whoever they wanted without being vilified for wasting their vote.... which is precisely why nations such as Britain and the US need to adopt preferential voting, so that no vote is wasted
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 19, 2016 23:38:38 GMT 10
As I said they held more seats than the Liberals before the last election.... and they're certainly in a better position than the Liberal Democrats in the United Kingdom, who are firmly the third major non-regional party Well if they held more seats than the liberals last election then they absoltuley failed this election for some reason, which should show their popularity probably dropped among Canadians... Actually, this may explain quite a bit: theindependent.ca/2015/10/25/why-the-ndp-lost-the-election/
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 19, 2016 23:39:01 GMT 10
Yeah, unless America brings in preferential voting, I don't see any change from the Republican/Democratic two party monopoly How about a revolucion? Let's not kid ourselves haha.... we can only dream
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 23:41:29 GMT 10
Well if they held more seats than the liberals last election then they absoltuley failed this election for some reason, which should show their popularity probably dropped among Canadians... And I'm pretty sure most western countries (at least English speaking ones) have a two-party system, it just a matter of how firm it is. Which is ridiculous - although to be fair one upside is that with a two party system there is political stability. I just think people should have the right for whoever they wanted without being vilified for wasting their vote.... which is precisely why nations such as Britain and the US need to adopt preferential voting, so that no vote is wasted What's a preferential voting?
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 19, 2016 23:56:44 GMT 10
Which is ridiculous - although to be fair one upside is that with a two party system there is political stability. I just think people should have the right for whoever they wanted without being vilified for wasting their vote.... which is precisely why nations such as Britain and the US need to adopt preferential voting, so that no vote is wasted What's a preferential voting? I've already explained it to you, and it's fairly self-explanatory.... here's an Australian example:
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 23:59:28 GMT 10
What's a preferential voting? I've already explained it to you, and it's fairly self-explanatory.... here's an Australian example: I'm pretty sure many states only have ballots for maybe 3 or 4 candidates, so that wouldn't work out so well.
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 20, 2016 0:18:42 GMT 10
I've already explained it to you, and it's fairly self-explanatory.... here's an Australian example: I'm pretty sure many states only have ballots for maybe 3 or 4 candidates, so that wouldn't work out so well. The number of candidates is irrelevant. The seat of Gorton for example had only three candidates running in this year's election www.abc.net.au/news/federal-election-2016/guide/gort/
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 0:23:46 GMT 10
I'm pretty sure many states only have ballots for maybe 3 or 4 candidates, so that wouldn't work out so well. The number of candidates is irrelevant. The seat of Gorton for example had only three candidates running in this year's election www.abc.net.au/news/federal-election-2016/guide/gort/Or you could just be like Russia and only have one good party running.
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 20, 2016 9:30:53 GMT 10
Or you could just be like Russia and only have one good party running. That can never be good in the long run though
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 18:35:15 GMT 10
Or you could just be like Russia and only have one good party running. That can never be good in the long run though Yea but it saves you the trouble of thinking who to vote for.
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 20, 2016 18:48:38 GMT 10
That can never be good in the long run though Yea but it saves you the trouble of thinking who to vote for. That's a dangerous idea on so many levels... every party needs an effective opposition
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 18:49:45 GMT 10
Yea but it saves you the trouble of thinking who to vote for. That's a dangerous idea on so many levels... every party needs an effective opposition Well if the party is good than isn't that okay?
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 20, 2016 19:03:11 GMT 10
That's a dangerous idea on so many levels... every party needs an effective opposition Well if the party is good than isn't that okay? Even if the party's good, without an effective opposition they'll become complacent and out of touch with the general public and their concerns
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 19:04:02 GMT 10
Well if the party is good than isn't that okay? Even if the party's good, without an effective opposition they'll become complacent and out of touch with the general public and their concerns Maybe, but I don't see Putin and his United Russia going away anytime soon.
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 20, 2016 19:29:25 GMT 10
Even if the party's good, without an effective opposition they'll become complacent and out of touch with the general public and their concerns Maybe, but I don't see Putin and his United Russia going away anytime soon. With death comes disunity.... we can only wait
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 19:35:11 GMT 10
Maybe, but I don't see Putin and his United Russia going away anytime soon. With death comes disunity.... we can only wait Until Putin dies? Mate, Russia has elections you know.
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 20, 2016 19:48:25 GMT 10
With death comes disunity.... we can only wait Until Putin dies? Mate, Russia has elections you know. Come on, he's practically a dictator... there's no way he's going to get voted out, not when Opposition leaders are bloody assassinated. Mate, there is no democracy in Russia, and saying otherwise would be pure denial
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