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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 18, 2016 19:00:17 GMT 10
Brexit, UKIP, Theresa May.... Yeah unless Corbyn wins the next election, UK's not a good idea Such a beautiful country though. A political trainwreck though. Ditto America
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 21:42:38 GMT 10
Not so sure about that, my teachers yelled at me a lot when I was a kid because of it lol I'm a pretty good drummer on rock band i play drums left handed too Rock Band may teach timing but being an actual drummer requires learning how to teach drums. Not a fisher price kit made of plastic.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 21:54:08 GMT 10
Such a beautiful country though. A political trainwreck though. Ditto America Canada seems to be the only liberal English-speaking country these days. Maybe New Zealand or Ireland but I have no idea how politics work in those countries.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 22:52:47 GMT 10
A political trainwreck though. Ditto America Canada seems to be the only liberal English-speaking country these days. Maybe New Zealand or Ireland but I have no idea how politics work in those countries. Depends on what part of Irelabd I suppose.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 22:53:48 GMT 10
Canada seems to be the only liberal English-speaking country these days. Maybe New Zealand or Ireland but I have no idea how politics work in those countries. Depends on what part of Irelabd I suppose. The Republic of Ireland mate
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Post by meddle on Dec 18, 2016 23:47:51 GMT 10
Yea interstingly enough whenever I see you I always imagine you being a drummer haha. Maybe he has the build for it? I dunno Well i am short and stocky naturaly lol so maybe that's a drummers build
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 19, 2016 0:14:46 GMT 10
I'm a pretty good drummer on rock band i play drums left handed too Rock Band may teach timing but being an actual drummer requires learning how to teach drums. Not a fisher price kit made of plastic. Yeah, if you want to learn drums and want to save money, just settle with an electric kit rather than a fucking plastic kit for a video game
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 19, 2016 0:16:10 GMT 10
A political trainwreck though. Ditto America Canada seems to be the only liberal English-speaking country these days. Maybe New Zealand or Ireland but I have no idea how politics work in those countries. If we talk about liberal conservatism, then that's going strong enough in the majority of the Western nations - though there is an reactionary ultra-nationalist movement as well in most of those same countries
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 19, 2016 0:17:43 GMT 10
Depends on what part of Irelabd I suppose. The Republic of Ireland mate Both New Zealand and Ireland are currently run by right wing liberal conservative parties
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Post by meddle on Dec 19, 2016 0:20:21 GMT 10
What is a liberal conservative?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 0:23:11 GMT 10
Canada seems to be the only liberal English-speaking country these days. Maybe New Zealand or Ireland but I have no idea how politics work in those countries. If we talk about liberal conservatism, then that's going strong enough in the majority of the Western nations - though there is an reactionary ultra-nationalist movement as well in most of those same countries Just look at the Netherlands lol, the leader of the far-right party (who looks like a movie villian) apparently is gaining some ground. Canada's at least liberal in terms of mentality.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 0:23:42 GMT 10
The Republic of Ireland mate Both New Zealand and Ireland are currently run by right wing liberal conservative parties I'm guessing Ireland's "right wing" party's only real agenda is to criticize Britain.
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 19, 2016 0:55:30 GMT 10
What is a liberal conservative? A liberal conservative is essentially a right wing liberal - someone who is socially conservative but believes in free trade. Someone who goes on about the importance of freedom and the individual, and advocates for small government - the ideological opposite of a socialist. I think that's the best way I can sum it up.
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 19, 2016 0:56:46 GMT 10
If we talk about liberal conservatism, then that's going strong enough in the majority of the Western nations - though there is an reactionary ultra-nationalist movement as well in most of those same countries Just look at the Netherlands lol, the leader of the far-right party (who looks like a movie villian) apparently is gaining some ground. Canada's at least liberal in terms of mentality. Perhaps. I will say they're not as bad as other Western nations right now. That said, this is worth checking out: www.politicalcompass.org/canada2015
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 19, 2016 0:57:10 GMT 10
Both New Zealand and Ireland are currently run by right wing liberal conservative parties I'm guessing Ireland's "right wing" party's only real agenda is to criticize Britain. Well then, I highly doubt they'd have a one-issue government
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 0:57:56 GMT 10
Just look at the Netherlands lol, the leader of the far-right party (who looks like a movie villian) apparently is gaining some ground. Canada's at least liberal in terms of mentality. Perhaps. I will say they're not as bad as other Western nations right now. That said, this is worth checking out: www.politicalcompass.org/canada2015Surprised even the Quebec party is pretty right leaning. Or at least center, I expected them to be Socialist.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 0:58:19 GMT 10
I'm guessing Ireland's "right wing" party's only real agenda is to criticize Britain. Well then, I highly doubt they'd have a one-issue government But they're main platform probably. I'd like to move to Ireland, seems like a nice nation.
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Post by meddle on Dec 19, 2016 0:58:57 GMT 10
Just look at the Netherlands lol, the leader of the far-right party (who looks like a movie villian) apparently is gaining some ground. Canada's at least liberal in terms of mentality. Perhaps. I will say they're not as bad as other Western nations right now. That said, this is worth checking out: www.politicalcompass.org/canada2015So a classical liberal or Libertarian?
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 19, 2016 1:02:19 GMT 10
Surprised even the Quebec party is pretty right leaning. Or at least center, I expected them to be Socialist. Yeah, you learn a hell of a lot on Political Compass. I know I certainly have. What's most shocking about Canada is their Greens party - the most right leaning I've seen yet
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 19, 2016 1:03:06 GMT 10
Well then, I highly doubt they'd have a one-issue government But they're main platform probably. I'd like to move to Ireland, seems like a nice nation. Again, I highly doubt that. I suggest you do the research and come back - though when you do, start up a thread about it on the Politics section of the forum
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 1:03:36 GMT 10
Surprised even the Quebec party is pretty right leaning. Or at least center, I expected them to be Socialist. Yeah, you learn a hell of a lot on Political Compass. I know I certainly have. What's most shocking about Canada is their Greens party - the most right leaning I've seen yet But as I said, at the very least the mentality of the general candian party is more liberal compared to the US or UK. And if that's really the case, then there's really no truly left-learning liberal english-speaking western country...Which is just sad.
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 19, 2016 1:06:41 GMT 10
So a classical liberal or Libertarian? If you're referring to my liberal conservative explanation, yeah it can be considered that. But the thing with Liberalism is that it's an ideology that can be either progressive or conservative. It can be either left leaning or right wing, so long as it's not socialist, reactionary or authoritarian. Likewise you can be conservative and be on the left or right, for it means just that - the retaining of the status quo
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 19, 2016 1:07:59 GMT 10
Yeah, you learn a hell of a lot on Political Compass. I know I certainly have. What's most shocking about Canada is their Greens party - the most right leaning I've seen yet But as I said, at the very least the mentality of the general candian party is more liberal compared to the US or UK. And if that's really the case, then there's really no truly left-learning liberal english-speaking western country...Which is just sad. I dunno, perhaps. Their Conservative party is pretty far right though
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 1:09:10 GMT 10
But as I said, at the very least the mentality of the general candian party is more liberal compared to the US or UK. And if that's really the case, then there's really no truly left-learning liberal english-speaking western country...Which is just sad. I dunno, perhaps. Their Conservative party is pretty far right though That's definatley a shame for people who want to immigrate to said countries. And the US wonders why illegal immigration is soaring.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 1:11:21 GMT 10
I dunno, perhaps. Their Conservative party is pretty far right though That's definatley a shame for people who want to immigrate to said countries. And the US wonders why illegal immigration is soaring. I disagree with illegal immigration. I respect the rights of a refugee and find that the government have been completely wrong in that they've been proven to brainwash people with lies of refugees being criminals (there is no such thing as an illegal refugee in Australia, the refugee rights act allows anyone to seek a new country based on their persecution) but I just don't think it's fair to illegally immigrate to a country when you are in perfectly safe circumstances.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 1:15:06 GMT 10
That's definatley a shame for people who want to immigrate to said countries. And the US wonders why illegal immigration is soaring. I disagree with illegal immigration. I respect the rights of a refugee and find that the government have been completely wrong in that they've been proven to brainwash people with lies of refugees being criminals (there is no such thing as an illegal refugee in Australia, the refugee rights act allows anyone to seek a new country based on their persecution) but I just don't think it's fair to illegally immigrate to a country when you are in perfectly safe circumstances. How about people looking for a better life simply? The immigration laws greatly disadvantage the ones who are poor, but are willing to work. I don't see anything wrong with them coming and legally paying taxes, not committing crimes etc...And the definition of a "refugee" is really vague, a lot of people in "perfectly safe circumstances" can be considered refugees under official definition.
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 19, 2016 1:30:08 GMT 10
I dunno, perhaps. Their Conservative party is pretty far right though That's definatley a shame for people who want to immigrate to said countries. And the US wonders why illegal immigration is soaring. Actually come to think of it Canada is a party with three major parties, and one of them - the NDP - is according to the Political Compass map further to the left than the Liberals (the ruling party) and in the political centre (though left-leaning socially)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 1:33:43 GMT 10
That's definatley a shame for people who want to immigrate to said countries. And the US wonders why illegal immigration is soaring. Actually come to think of it Canada is a party with three major parties, and one of them - the NDP - is according to the Political Compass map further to the left than the Liberals (the ruling party) and in the political centre (though left-leaning socially) I don't think the NDP has much power.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 1:35:54 GMT 10
I disagree with illegal immigration. I respect the rights of a refugee and find that the government have been completely wrong in that they've been proven to brainwash people with lies of refugees being criminals (there is no such thing as an illegal refugee in Australia, the refugee rights act allows anyone to seek a new country based on their persecution) but I just don't think it's fair to illegally immigrate to a country when you are in perfectly safe circumstances. How about people looking for a better life simply? The immigration laws greatly disadvantage the ones who are poor, but are willing to work. I don't see anything wrong with them coming and legally paying taxes, not committing crimes etc...And the definition of a "refugee" is really vague, a lot of people in "perfectly safe circumstances" can be considered refugees under official definition. If you're poor, I feel bad for you but that's not necessarily the fault of your country (though it can be). Nor is it your fault either (again it can be sometimes). Try your best to get work and do everything you can. If bombs are being dropped on you then yeah go immigrate. Otherwise it's deeply unfair to genuine refugees.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 1:39:00 GMT 10
How about people looking for a better life simply? The immigration laws greatly disadvantage the ones who are poor, but are willing to work. I don't see anything wrong with them coming and legally paying taxes, not committing crimes etc...And the definition of a "refugee" is really vague, a lot of people in "perfectly safe circumstances" can be considered refugees under official definition. If you're poor, I feel bad for you but that's not necessarily the fault of your country (though it can be). Nor is it your fault either (again it can be sometimes). Try your best to get work and do everything you can. If bombs are being dropped on you then yeah go immigrate. Otherwise it's deeply unfair to genuine refugees. At least in the case of America deportation of illegal immigrants would have a detrimental effect on the economy. Many of these immigrants honestly have no choice or chance of success in their country so they feel that immigrating would be the best option for them. It may not be fair to genuine immigrants and refugees but these illegal immigrants are actually hard working people who don't see the fruits of their efforts. And as for refugee issues, technically if I say that the government is persecuting me because of my beliefs, no matter how random it is, I can be considered a refugee.
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