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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 0:22:22 GMT 10
1967 was a brilliant year in music and showed the boundaries for rock music rapidly expanding. Here I compete Piper At The Gates of Dawn up against some serious competitors. Some loved, some despised, but all of them have a relevant place in the conversation.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 0:24:59 GMT 10
All great albums, I'll go with Pink Floyd though, their sound appeals to me the most.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 0:25:00 GMT 10
For me it's The Velvet Underground & Nico. Without question some of the most outstanding sequencing of music ever created.
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 18, 2016 0:26:00 GMT 10
Hmm... compared to the other albums on the poll I must say I've got two answers. First of all, I'd consider Piper to be the strongest as well as the most quintessential of the psychedelic albums. However.... if we're talking about the album that most accurately pointed towards the future direction of music, then it's gotta be Are You Experienced - with an honourable mention to the Velvet Underground album
Also I think this thread should be in the General Music Discussions section
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 0:36:45 GMT 10
Hmm... compared to the other albums on the poll I must say I've got two answers. First of all, I'd consider Piper to be the strongest as well as the most quintessential of the psychedelic albums. However.... if we're talking about the album that most accurately pointed towards the future direction of music, then it's gotta be Are You Experienced - with an honourable mention to the Velvet Underground album Also I think this thread should be in the General Music Discussions section I have to disagree on Are You Experienced being more influential than The Velvet Underground's debut. Hendrix's guitar playing was revolutionary but nothing else on those albums aside from some of the production work did anything that ridiculously fresh. Great music, but guitar playing alone won't make you the biggest influence ever. i feel similarly about Pepper. It was very innovative in some aspects, but it's more the legacy of The Beatles that puts it so high up. The Velvet Underground are the reason for the existence of punk, indie, post-rock, noise rock, alternative, shoegaze, and maybe more genres and sub genres i'm forgetting. All of those genres trace their ancestry to the experimental rock of that album. Listen to Slint or My bloody Valentine or Godspeed You! Black Emperor or Nirvana or Pixies or Sonic Youth or Television or Patti Smith or The Violent Femmes. Hendrix is the most influential musician ever and The Beatles were the most influential band ever, but The Velvet Underground & Nico is the most influential album ever. As for moving the thread, I was torn on where to put it admittedly. I'll switch it now. |
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 18, 2016 10:45:24 GMT 10
Hmm... compared to the other albums on the poll I must say I've got two answers. First of all, I'd consider Piper to be the strongest as well as the most quintessential of the psychedelic albums. However.... if we're talking about the album that most accurately pointed towards the future direction of music, then it's gotta be Are You Experienced - with an honourable mention to the Velvet Underground album Also I think this thread should be in the General Music Discussions section I have to disagree on Are You Experienced being more influential than The Velvet Underground's debut. Hendrix's guitar playing was revolutionary but nothing else on those albums aside from some of the production work did anything that ridiculously fresh. Great music, but guitar playing alone won't make you the biggest influence ever. i feel similarly about Pepper. It was very innovative in some aspects, but it's more the legacy of The Beatles that puts it so high up. The Velvet Underground are the reason for the existence of punk, indie, post-rock, noise rock, alternative, shoegaze, and maybe more genres and sub genres i'm forgetting. All of those genres trace their ancestry to the experimental rock of that album. Listen to Slint or My bloody Valentine or Godspeed You! Black Emperor or Nirvana or Pixies or Sonic Youth or Television or Patti Smith or The Violent Femmes. Hendrix is the most influential musician ever and The Beatles were the most influential band ever, but The Velvet Underground & Nico is the most influential album ever. As for moving the thread, I was torn on where to put it admittedly. I'll switch it now. Still, one could argue that Hendrix (and his three Experience albums) has a significant influence on the burgeoning hard rock (or the more derisively cock rock) scene, and particularly among guitarists. Much of his work - particularly on that first album - influenced millions of people to take up the guitar. That said, I'd probably split the award between the two, since you have a point with the Velvet Underground |
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Post by meddle on Dec 18, 2016 11:28:54 GMT 10
I voted Sgt pepper
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 13:41:05 GMT 10
I have to disagree on Are You Experienced being more influential than The Velvet Underground's debut. Hendrix's guitar playing was revolutionary but nothing else on those albums aside from some of the production work did anything that ridiculously fresh. Great music, but guitar playing alone won't make you the biggest influence ever. i feel similarly about Pepper. It was very innovative in some aspects, but it's more the legacy of The Beatles that puts it so high up. The Velvet Underground are the reason for the existence of punk, indie, post-rock, noise rock, alternative, shoegaze, and maybe more genres and sub genres i'm forgetting. All of those genres trace their ancestry to the experimental rock of that album. Listen to Slint or My bloody Valentine or Godspeed You! Black Emperor or Nirvana or Pixies or Sonic Youth or Television or Patti Smith or The Violent Femmes. Hendrix is the most influential musician ever and The Beatles were the most influential band ever, but The Velvet Underground & Nico is the most influential album ever. As for moving the thread, I was torn on where to put it admittedly. I'll switch it now. Still, one could argue that Hendrix (and his three Experience albums) has a significant influence on the burgeoning hard rock (or the more derisively cock rock) scene, and particularly among guitarists. Much of his work - particularly on that first album - influenced millions of people to take up the guitar. That said, I'd probably split the award between the two, since you have a point with the Velvet Underground Yeah you're probably right for splitting the award. i just don't think any Hendrix album in particular did that. |
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 18, 2016 13:42:38 GMT 10
Still, one could argue that Hendrix (and his three Experience albums) has a significant influence on the burgeoning hard rock (or the more derisively cock rock) scene, and particularly among guitarists. Much of his work - particularly on that first album - influenced millions of people to take up the guitar. That said, I'd probably split the award between the two, since you have a point with the Velvet Underground Yeah you're probably right for splitting the award. i just don't think any Hendrix album in particular did that. Perhaps, but it seems that the first Experience album is the most popular by far |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 13:55:47 GMT 10
Yeah you're probably right for splitting the award. i just don't think any Hendrix album in particular did that. Perhaps, but it seems that the first Experience album is the most popular by far Not even sure about that. It's the most iconic definitely but a lot of people these days are more favouring towards Electric Ladyland. |
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 18, 2016 13:58:06 GMT 10
Perhaps, but it seems that the first Experience album is the most popular by far Not even sure about that. It's the most iconic definitely but a lot of people these days are more favouring towards Electric Ladyland. Problem with that though is that it's a double album, and double albums are more often than not heavily flawed and unnecessarily overlong |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 13:59:41 GMT 10
Not even sure about that. It's the most iconic definitely but a lot of people these days are more favouring towards Electric Ladyland. Problem with that though is that it's a double album, and double albums are more often than not heavily flawed and unnecessarily overlong Oh, so because doubles albums have a hit-or-miss (at best) reputation, we should dismiss Electric Ladyland without even commenting on it's musical content? Electric Ladyland is one of the most consistently strong double albums ever made. It's right on par with London Calling by The Clash for me. |
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 18, 2016 14:10:22 GMT 10
Problem with that though is that it's a double album, and double albums are more often than not heavily flawed and unnecessarily overlong Oh, so because doubles albums have a hit-or-miss (at best) reputation, we should dismiss Electric Ladyland without even commenting on it's musical content? Electric Ladyland is one of the most consistently strong double albums ever made. It's right on par with London Calling by The Clash for me. Not necessarily; I just don't think it's as consistently strong or even iconic as Are You Experienced |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 14:13:37 GMT 10
Oh, so because doubles albums have a hit-or-miss (at best) reputation, we should dismiss Electric Ladyland without even commenting on it's musical content? Electric Ladyland is one of the most consistently strong double albums ever made. It's right on par with London Calling by The Clash for me. Not necessarily; I just don't think it's as consistently strong or even iconic as Are You Experienced They're both equally as consistent for me, and while Are You Experienced is iconic and has more famous tracks, Electric Ladyland has a much deeper musical experience for me. |
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 18, 2016 14:29:51 GMT 10
Not necessarily; I just don't think it's as consistently strong or even iconic as Are You Experienced They're both equally as consistent for me, and while Are You Experienced is iconic and has more famous tracks, Electric Ladyland has a much deeper musical experience for me. So in other words, you'd probably take Ladyland over Experienced? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 14:44:36 GMT 10
They're both equally as consistent for me, and while Are You Experienced is iconic and has more famous tracks, Electric Ladyland has a much deeper musical experience for me. So in other words, you'd probably take Ladyland over Experienced? Yes, the all three albums by the group are terrific. |
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 18, 2016 14:58:20 GMT 10
So in other words, you'd probably take Ladyland over Experienced? Yes, the all three albums by the group are terrific. I'm curious to hear Stevie's thoughts on this |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 23:00:12 GMT 10
Don't know much about these albums to comment, but I'll say Piper is the best one because I feel it was the defining sound of the psychdelic style.
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 19, 2016 23:04:08 GMT 10
Don't know much about these albums to comment, but I'll say Piper is the best one because I feel it was the defining sound of the psychdelic style. No, I mean regarding the Hendrix discussion |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 23:08:28 GMT 10
Don't know much about these albums to comment, but I'll say Piper is the best one because I feel it was the defining sound of the psychdelic style. No, I mean regarding the Hendrix discussion Again, not too educated on Hendrix Experience to comment. |
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 19, 2016 23:51:48 GMT 10
No, I mean regarding the Hendrix discussion Again, not too educated on Hendrix Experience to comment. Damn man, you should check out his albums |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 23:56:18 GMT 10
Again, not too educated on Hendrix Experience to comment. Damn man, you should check out his albums I know Hendrix and I know his style, but I don't know much about the Experience. All I know is that it's acid rock and it's crazy lol. |
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 20, 2016 0:12:26 GMT 10
Damn man, you should check out his albums I know Hendrix and I know his style, but I don't know much about the Experience. All I know is that it's acid rock and it's crazy lol. Well for starters everyone is dead now. Everyone. (except Billy Cox, but he didn't come into the picture until 1969, well after their final studio album) |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 0:19:50 GMT 10
I know Hendrix and I know his style, but I don't know much about the Experience. All I know is that it's acid rock and it's crazy lol. Well for starters everyone is dead now. Everyone. (except Billy Cox, but he didn't come into the picture until 1969, well after their final studio album) Well that's a rather depressing start. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 0:36:47 GMT 10
Damn man, you should check out his albums I know Hendrix and I know his style, but I don't know much about the Experience. All I know is that it's acid rock and it's crazy lol. It's really not that crazy. A couple songs are for sure but in general. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 0:42:00 GMT 10
I know Hendrix and I know his style, but I don't know much about the Experience. All I know is that it's acid rock and it's crazy lol. It's really not that crazy. A couple songs are for sure but in general. Thought the band took acid and then performed improvised songs or something? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 1:20:33 GMT 10
It's really not that crazy. A couple songs are for sure but in general. Thought the band took acid and then performed improvised songs or something? Well they took acid just as nearly every rock band in the 60s and 70s did. They may or may not have taken it just before performing but it rarely effected their performances. They had lots of live improvisation as well but that's irrelevant to the drugs as so did countless jazz musicians, and less rockers but still a fair amount. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 1:23:24 GMT 10
Thought the band took acid and then performed improvised songs or something? Well they took acid just as nearly every rock band in the 60s and 70s did. They may or may not have taken it just before performing but it rarely effected their performances. They had lots of live improvisation as well but that's irrelevant to the drugs as so did countless jazz musicians, and less rockers but still a fair amount. I mean, yea, Jazz musicians improvised, but I thought the band improvised in a really crazy manner going absolutley nuts on stage. I'll have to listen to some though, I've always watned to get into them. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 1:44:59 GMT 10
Well they took acid just as nearly every rock band in the 60s and 70s did. They may or may not have taken it just before performing but it rarely effected their performances. They had lots of live improvisation as well but that's irrelevant to the drugs as so did countless jazz musicians, and less rockers but still a fair amount. I mean, yea, Jazz musicians improvised, but I thought the band improvised in a really crazy manner going absolutley nuts on stage. I'll have to listen to some though, I've always watned to get into them. To a degree, i've just heard much weirder. |
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Post by BluesyThug on Dec 20, 2016 9:41:17 GMT 10
I mean, yea, Jazz musicians improvised, but I thought the band improvised in a really crazy manner going absolutley nuts on stage. I'll have to listen to some though, I've always watned to get into them. To a degree, i've just heard much weirder. Yeah, just wait until you get to pornojazzfunk |
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